With the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks fast
approaching and the United States establishing the new Department
of Homeland Security, the role and impact of foreign scientists in
this country are being closely examined. MiSciNet recently asked
Dr. Keith Jackson, president of the National Society of Black
Physicists ( NSBP ), his views on
the impact that hiring foreign scientists might have on
opportunities for underrepresented minority scientists in the
United States.
MiSciNet:Does this country need to train more
scientists and engineers? For instance, there is apparently an
oversupply in the life sciences at the moment, but other
areas--such as mathematics, physics, and engineering--might need
more people.
"The influx of foreign students has driven down starting
salaries so much that a career in physics or any other science and
technology field is unattractive."
Jackson:Pushing the ?education button? is a tried and
true method for obfuscating any issue, the case of scientific human
resources being a prime example. Consider this simple 5-minute
thought experiment:
Just call any government, industry, or academic institution that
hires physical scientists--a large national laboratory, a small
one, new, old, any location--and talk to the human resources
department. Ask if it is true that they reject the vast majority of
their scientific applicants without even an interview. After they
confirm this, ask them why. The most likely response is that the
vast majority of the applicants don't have the training or skill
set the employer wants, even though the applicants have a Ph.D. in
physics, chemistry, or another science discipline.
Here is what you may conclude from this experiment:
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Many are incorrect when they claim a lack of "bodies," that is,
a lack of people with scientific training. What they really mean
(some insincerely, some sincerely) is a lack of African American
scientists with work experience in a specific field (e.g., x-ray
optics or high-pressure x-ray crystallography).
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The belief that we need to train more scientists is incorrect.
The fields of science change quite rapidly, so it will always be
the case that the vast majority of scientists, African American or
otherwise, do not have direct experience in the newest fields--no
matter how many Ph.D. scientists the schools produce. Producing
more Ph.D. scientists would just give employers such as the
Department of Energy and other national laboratories more people to
reject.
Contrary to the claim some would make--that African American
youth lack interest in science careers--the fact is that university
enrollment in science programs has historically risen and fallen in
almost perfect correlation to the opportunities in the job market.
The concern now is that the number of foreign students willing to
work for low wages has created a huge disincentive for U.S.-born
students, black or white, to major in science. The influx of
foreign students has driven down starting salaries so much that a
career in physics or any other science and technology field is
unattractive. The response of government, industry, or academic
institutions to this crisis has been to lobby to increase the quota
for foreign scientists using J-1, O, and H-1B work visas as
incentives on the basis that cheaper labor is ?good for
business.?
To understand the effects of this policy, consider the results
of a recent American Institute of Physics (AIP) survey. * During the 1999-2000 academic year, physics
departments recruited for over 500 tenure and tenure-track
openings. This is the largest annual number of faculty openings in
the 15 years that AIP has collected data on hiring trends. However,
it should be noted that not all open positions are filled in 1
year. Many departments do not find the candidate they want, and
about 20% to 30% of the open positions are rolled over to be
included in the recruitment efforts for the following year.
The profile of new faculty members hired by physics departments
at primarily undergraduate institutions is very different than at
research university departments. Most of the new faculty hired by
bachelor's degree-granting institutions are young physicists who
earned their Ph.D.s in the United States. By contrast, only 35% of
the new faculty hired by Ph.D.-granting departments in 1999 were
young scientists from the United States. Almost as many of the new
hires were physicists who had earned their Ph.D.s abroad, most of
whom were mid-career scientists who had already garnered a strong
international reputation for their work. A significant number of
the new hires were mid-career level scientists from industry and
government labs.
This profile of the new faculty hired by Ph.D.-granting physics
departments in 2000 is vastly different from that of 10 to 20 years
ago. For example, during the 1980s, only 16% of the new faculty
hires were physicists who had earned their Ph.D.s abroad.
There are far fewer U.S. citizens working in Ph.D.-granting
institutions and, by extension, in government-funded national
laboratories. Even though there are more academic positions
available, the increase in the number of foreign nationals
recruited for these positions limits the number of positions that
remain open for U.S. citizens at Ph.D.-granting institutions.
I would also raise the question of fundamental fairness.
Consider the employment opportunities available in the United
States to a scientist from the European Union. In most cases, it is
next to impossible for a U.S. citizen to work as a paid member of
the scientific staff in a career position at either an academic
institution or European laboratory such as a Max Plank institute or
the European synchrotron light sources. In many cases, such as the
European Synchrotron Radiation Facility, it is even impossible for
a U.S. citizen to take advantage of the facility on the basis of a
peer-reviewed proposal. Yet, our national laboratories are
completely open for both career opportunities and scientific
research for members of the European Union. Thus, the U.S.-born
scientist as a practical matter really only has access to the
scientific job market in the United States, whereas his or her
European counterpart has access to opportunities in the United
States and the European Union. If the population of scientists is
equal, for example, then the European Union member has access to
twice as many job opportunities as his or her U.S. counterpart.
MiSciNet:Some would argue that there simply are not
enough trained minority scientists available to work in government,
industry, or the academy, perhaps as a result of the proverbial
leaky pipeline. Thus, reaching out to the pool of foreign
scientists is a necessary option. How would you respond?
Jackson:First, let me point out that if there were indeed
an undersupply of scientists, you?d see hyperinflation of salaries,
which of course is simply not the case in any field of science. For
example, a graduating Ph.D. in physics at Lawrence Berkeley
National Laboratory in California currently receives a starting
postdoctoral salary between $39,312 and $55,788. The other national
laboratories and the National Institutes of Health offer similar
salaries. According to the laws of labor economics, if there is no
hyperinflation of salaries, then there can be no labor shortage.
However, I do think that there is a shortage of U.S. citizens who
are willing to spend 10 or more years to get a Ph.D. in physics for
a starting salary of $39,312 a year.
In our study focusing on the status of the ?African-American
Physicist at the DOE Funded National Laboratories,? we were able to
identify only 11 African American Ph.D.-level physicists with
career positions in the major DOE-funded national laboratories.
This was out of a total of 3200 Ph.D.-level physicists employed by
the laboratories. Out of the top 20 physics departments, there are
only two African Americans in tenure-track faculty positions. What
we conclude from this analysis is that foreign nationals are
preferred over African Americans in hiring at these facilities. In
fact, the major employers of African American physicists and
African American scientists in general have been and continue to be
historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs). In regard to
the leaky pipeline issue, NSBP has found the greatest attrition
rate for African American students of physics is during graduate
school. I need not point out that foreign students dominate many
graduate programs in science. With this large supply of foreign
students available, there is little or no incentive for these
graduate departments to expend the effort to recruit or retain
African American or other U.S. students.
I believe that these institutions have a history of
discrimination against hiring African Americans in any position. I
have often heard from government, industry, or academics that they
would consider hiring African American scientists if only they
could find one who was qualified. Yet, when NSBP members have
presented candidates for postdoc and staff positions at national
laboratories, little or no action has been taken. In fact, it has
been my experience that it is very difficult even to get my
colleagues to read the CV of an African American scientist. If any
action is taken, it is normally of the negative type, such as
finding some reason why the African American candidate is not
qualified for the position.
MiSciNet:Do you really believe that the reason so many
foreign scientists are allowed to come to the United States is
simply to reduce the cost of scientific labor? Financially, is it
cheaper to bring over foreign scientists or to train U.S.
minorities?
Jackson:There is no question in my mind that the main
concern is to reduce the cost of doing research and reduce the
employer's commitment and liability to the lowest level possible.
The best and the brightest in the eyes of business and government
seem to be the cheapest and most pliable. The financial incentive
to hire foreign nationals is tremendous. In addition, the effect of
deteriorating terms of employment and depressed wages has had a
steady cumulative effect on the relative attractiveness of advanced
technical training for the best U.S. students, particularly African
Americans.
By any standard you care to apply, for employers in the United
States, this is a buyer's market. U.S. laboratories and
universities can pick from tens of millions of people around the
world to get the brightest, best-educated people--educated on
somebody else's dime. In the case of U.S. citizens, you would have
to pay to train them, and then they would have the expectation of
full-time career employment with benefits.
The growing influx of foreign Ph.D. scientists into U.S. labor
markets will hold down the level of Ph.D. salaries to the extent
that foreign students are attracted to U.S. doctoral programs as a
way of immigrating to the U.S. One way to look at this for this
group is that the Ph.D. salary premium is much higher than for
Americans, because it is based on B.S.-level pay in the foreign
students' home nations versus Ph.D.-level pay in the United States.
For the U.S. citizen, the salary differential (the difference
between the starting Ph.D. salary and B.S. salary) is much
lower.
I would also like to point out that the income of a foreign
national with a J-1 visa, typically used for postdoctoral
appointments, is not subject to U.S. income taxes. This puts the
foreign national at a 15% salary advantage compared to the U.S.
citizen in the same postdoctoral position.
MiSciNet:In a recent issue ofScience(10 May
2002, p. 996), it was reported that the U.S. Department of
Agriculture has adopted a policy by which it will no longer apply
for visas to permit foreign scientists to work in its labs. Due to
recent heightened security concerns because of 9/11, has this
caused a slowdown in the hiring of foreign scientists compared to
minority scientists in the national laboratories?
Jackson:There has been some slowdown of hiring of foreign
nationals in the national laboratories due to security concerns,
but NSBP has not detected any commensurate increase in the hiring
of African Americans. In fact, I would attribute the slowdown in
hiring of foreign nationals more to the result of uncertainty in
research funding than to security concerns.
I would like to point out that if federal agencies are going to
be competitive in performing research in the name of homeland
security, it does not make sense to hire foreign scientists for
these types of positions. For example, if the United States Air
Force has a shortage of fighter pilots, it would not go out and
lobby Congress to hire fighter pilots from the former Soviet
Union.
MiSciNet:Has NSBP formed partnerships with other
groups such as NOBCChE, SACNAS, AISES, and NSBE to focus on these
types of issues?
Jackson:We are anxious to join with these organizations
on this and many other issues facing the community of African
American scientists. For example, NSBP would like NOBCChE to join
us in calling for a meeting with the secretary of energy and the
director of the Office of Science and National Nuclear Security
Administration to discuss our concerns.
MiSciNet:A small number of minority scientists hold
postdoc positions in national laboratories and academia. You
recognize this with regard to African American Ph.D. physicists.
What are the actual numbers, and are there any initiatives in place
to deal with this problem?
Jackson:NSBP has been unable to identify with confidence
the number and status of African American postdocs in the DOE
national laboratories. This is an area of great concern because we
fear that the number of postdocs in physics is even smaller than
the number of African American physicists with career positions
within the DOE laboratories. Some of the initiatives that the NSBP
is working on include:
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NSBP summer institutes--intense 10-week summer schools, open to
all but held in the African American community. They would provide
advanced instruction in hot topical areas of science such as
nanoscience, string theory, biophysics, advanced computation, and
neutron science.
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Joint research appointments for faculty from HBCUs at national
laboratories.
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Insistence that more African Americans serve on national
technical panels with government agencies such as NASA, DOE, NSF,
and NRC. NSBP could serve as a resource to identify scientists to
work on these panels.
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Development of a professional networking infrastructure that
would be a support system for African American physics
students.
* Ivie and Stowe,2000 Academic Workforce
Survey(AIP Statistical Research Center Department Chairs
Conference, June 2002).
Dr. Jackson is associate director of the Center for
X-ray Optics in the Materials Sciences Division of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory .
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